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		<title>By: Max</title>
		<link>http://www.canadiancapitalist.com/withholding-tax-tfsa-investments/#comment-434958</link>
		<dc:creator>Max</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Mar 2011 15:23:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Can anyone provide insight on the following. 

I got stocks from my work, even tho I have a W8-BEN on file, they took 47% Withholding at source (US).  
The documents my brokers sent me clearly indicates the taxes were sent to the Ontario government. 
-is this possible ?  Should i chase the Ont Gov for the credit ? Should i simply claim a Foreign Tax Credit ?
It&#039;s my understanding that I cannot recover the withholding tax ?? But only get credit for it ?? 
Thanks.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Can anyone provide insight on the following. </p>
<p>I got stocks from my work, even tho I have a W8-BEN on file, they took 47% Withholding at source (US).<br />
The documents my brokers sent me clearly indicates the taxes were sent to the Ontario government.<br />
-is this possible ?  Should i chase the Ont Gov for the credit ? Should i simply claim a Foreign Tax Credit ?<br />
It&#8217;s my understanding that I cannot recover the withholding tax ?? But only get credit for it ??<br />
Thanks.</p>
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		<title>By: Financial Cents</title>
		<link>http://www.canadiancapitalist.com/withholding-tax-tfsa-investments/#comment-230257</link>
		<dc:creator>Financial Cents</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 04 Jul 2010 13:10:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Excellent post CC!

Does anyone know if there are withholding taxes for RSP LIRAs?  (Locked-In Retirement Accounts)?

I would like to hold U.S. dividend-paying stocks in my RSP LIRA (stocks like Johnson &amp; Johnson), but I do not want to be penalized for holding those U.S. stocks there by paying any withholding tax.  

I have my LIRA because I contributed to a pension at my former employer.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Excellent post CC!</p>
<p>Does anyone know if there are withholding taxes for RSP LIRAs?  (Locked-In Retirement Accounts)?</p>
<p>I would like to hold U.S. dividend-paying stocks in my RSP LIRA (stocks like Johnson &amp; Johnson), but I do not want to be penalized for holding those U.S. stocks there by paying any withholding tax.  </p>
<p>I have my LIRA because I contributed to a pension at my former employer.</p>
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		<title>By: Tony</title>
		<link>http://www.canadiancapitalist.com/withholding-tax-tfsa-investments/#comment-193866</link>
		<dc:creator>Tony</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 20 Jun 2009 01:53:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What about Vanguard ETFs such as VEA (Europe Pacific) and VTI (entire US market, MSCI index)?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What about Vanguard ETFs such as VEA (Europe Pacific) and VTI (entire US market, MSCI index)?</p>
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		<title>By: Tax Guy</title>
		<link>http://www.canadiancapitalist.com/withholding-tax-tfsa-investments/#comment-193662</link>
		<dc:creator>Tax Guy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Jun 2009 16:27:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@ Aolis: You cannot file a US Tax Return and recover withholding taxes from the TFSA unless you are a US citizen or have US tax filing obligations.

@ Shane: Mutual funds that have foreign investments are subject to withholding tax. The fund manager pays the withholding tax and passes your portion along to you. The withholding tax will be reported on Box 16 of the T3.

I have a similar article on my site. Click on my name to view.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ Aolis: You cannot file a US Tax Return and recover withholding taxes from the TFSA unless you are a US citizen or have US tax filing obligations.</p>
<p>@ Shane: Mutual funds that have foreign investments are subject to withholding tax. The fund manager pays the withholding tax and passes your portion along to you. The withholding tax will be reported on Box 16 of the T3.</p>
<p>I have a similar article on my site. Click on my name to view.</p>
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		<title>By: Shane</title>
		<link>http://www.canadiancapitalist.com/withholding-tax-tfsa-investments/#comment-193603</link>
		<dc:creator>Shane</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Jun 2009 23:15:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m curious how this works in mutual funds and index funds. If a fund 
holds an us equity and that equity pays a dividend, does the fund 
manager have to determine who pays the withholding tax and who doesn&#039;t 
in the case where the fund is held inside an RRSP?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m curious how this works in mutual funds and index funds. If a fund<br />
holds an us equity and that equity pays a dividend, does the fund<br />
manager have to determine who pays the withholding tax and who doesn&#8217;t<br />
in the case where the fund is held inside an RRSP?</p>
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		<title>By: Cam Birch</title>
		<link>http://www.canadiancapitalist.com/withholding-tax-tfsa-investments/#comment-193598</link>
		<dc:creator>Cam Birch</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Jun 2009 22:32:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Chris, withholding taxes are exactly that.  Taxes withheld at the source.  AKA money NOT paid to you.  Every single foreign investment is subject to that (there are a few countries that don&#039;t charge such).  Heck an RRSP withdrawl is also subject to withholding taxes.

If tax is withheld you should receive a tax receipt stating such.  Then you can claim it back on your taxes.  If your in a non-taxable account, you are pretty much screwed.  If you don&#039;t receive a tax receipt at the end of the year it means you were not subject to the taxes or the Mutual fund ate the cost and packed it into the MER.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Chris, withholding taxes are exactly that.  Taxes withheld at the source.  AKA money NOT paid to you.  Every single foreign investment is subject to that (there are a few countries that don&#8217;t charge such).  Heck an RRSP withdrawl is also subject to withholding taxes.</p>
<p>If tax is withheld you should receive a tax receipt stating such.  Then you can claim it back on your taxes.  If your in a non-taxable account, you are pretty much screwed.  If you don&#8217;t receive a tax receipt at the end of the year it means you were not subject to the taxes or the Mutual fund ate the cost and packed it into the MER.</p>
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		<title>By: Chris</title>
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		<dc:creator>Chris</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Jun 2009 21:29:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Does anyone know if Canadian based mutual funds (invested in US equities) are subject to the US withholding tax? 

Will you have to pay US tax if you hold the e-Series funds in your TFSA?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Does anyone know if Canadian based mutual funds (invested in US equities) are subject to the US withholding tax? </p>
<p>Will you have to pay US tax if you hold the e-Series funds in your TFSA?</p>
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		<title>By: Phil S</title>
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		<dc:creator>Phil S</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Jun 2009 19:24:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ugh.  What a nasty subject debated over many times with my peers...

I personally prefer to only put fixed income securities in my TFSA.  The reason being that interest income is the most heavily taxed form of distribution and hence that category has the most to be gained from sitting inside a TFSA.  But with stocks having been recently pounded into a pulp, it is undeniably VERY tempting to put equities into a TFSA account.  Here&#039;s my argument for leaving equities out of a TFSA:

1.  Capital losses cannot be written off in a TFSA account.
2.  It is unclear whether the interest paid on a leveraged purchase of an income investment inside a TFSA would qualify for a tax deduction.  I am erring on safe side with CRA and assuming that the answer is NO.
3.  If you manage to get a large capital gain in a fully taxable cash account, that capital gain is tax advantaged already.  You don&#039;t pay tax on 100% of the capital gain AND you can offset the gain with any losses from a &quot;dog&quot; you might have accidentally purchased.  See point #1.
4.  The maximum annual TFSA contribution is $5K.  If your brokerage charges you $29 per transaction (since your balance is only $5K, well below most brokerages&#039; thresholds to get the lower commission rate), then on a RELATIVE basis the commissions are quite high.
5.  It is difficult to buy exactly $5000 of a stock.  Whatever leftover dollars in your TFSA account are sitting around doing nothing waiting until next year&#039;s contribution.  So if you buy 100 shares of XYZ for $48 a share, then in many cases you will have about $200 of cash collecting no interest until next year when you add another $5K to make it $5200 to invest.  In contrast, you can put exactly $5K in a GIC.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ugh.  What a nasty subject debated over many times with my peers&#8230;</p>
<p>I personally prefer to only put fixed income securities in my TFSA.  The reason being that interest income is the most heavily taxed form of distribution and hence that category has the most to be gained from sitting inside a TFSA.  But with stocks having been recently pounded into a pulp, it is undeniably VERY tempting to put equities into a TFSA account.  Here&#8217;s my argument for leaving equities out of a TFSA:</p>
<p>1.  Capital losses cannot be written off in a TFSA account.<br />
2.  It is unclear whether the interest paid on a leveraged purchase of an income investment inside a TFSA would qualify for a tax deduction.  I am erring on safe side with CRA and assuming that the answer is NO.<br />
3.  If you manage to get a large capital gain in a fully taxable cash account, that capital gain is tax advantaged already.  You don&#8217;t pay tax on 100% of the capital gain AND you can offset the gain with any losses from a &#8220;dog&#8221; you might have accidentally purchased.  See point #1.<br />
4.  The maximum annual TFSA contribution is $5K.  If your brokerage charges you $29 per transaction (since your balance is only $5K, well below most brokerages&#8217; thresholds to get the lower commission rate), then on a RELATIVE basis the commissions are quite high.<br />
5.  It is difficult to buy exactly $5000 of a stock.  Whatever leftover dollars in your TFSA account are sitting around doing nothing waiting until next year&#8217;s contribution.  So if you buy 100 shares of XYZ for $48 a share, then in many cases you will have about $200 of cash collecting no interest until next year when you add another $5K to make it $5200 to invest.  In contrast, you can put exactly $5K in a GIC.</p>
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		<title>By: Remus</title>
		<link>http://www.canadiancapitalist.com/withholding-tax-tfsa-investments/#comment-193579</link>
		<dc:creator>Remus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Jun 2009 18:05:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Maybe I have the tendency to over simplify things but I really don&#039;t think it could be that complicated. In my view it should work like this: you have a taxable account and in there you have US dividend paying companies. They pay 1000 USD in dividends in year 2009. In real terms you get 850 USD in your account. So they withhold 15% correct?
The rule says you are entitled to apply for a credit for this correct? You know you lost 150$ so that is the amount.
I would imagine it is up to CRA to determine if you are entitled to a refund or not, and do the math per how much you should have paid in Canada if they wouldn&#039;t have withheld them in US etc etc etc.
And you put this in some kind of form (which by the way is the one I am trying to find out which one it is and if anybody in here ever completed one; that way they can share some info on the process).
Am I wrong?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Maybe I have the tendency to over simplify things but I really don&#8217;t think it could be that complicated. In my view it should work like this: you have a taxable account and in there you have US dividend paying companies. They pay 1000 USD in dividends in year 2009. In real terms you get 850 USD in your account. So they withhold 15% correct?<br />
The rule says you are entitled to apply for a credit for this correct? You know you lost 150$ so that is the amount.<br />
I would imagine it is up to CRA to determine if you are entitled to a refund or not, and do the math per how much you should have paid in Canada if they wouldn&#8217;t have withheld them in US etc etc etc.<br />
And you put this in some kind of form (which by the way is the one I am trying to find out which one it is and if anybody in here ever completed one; that way they can share some info on the process).<br />
Am I wrong?</p>
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		<title>By: Canadian Capitalist</title>
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		<dc:creator>Canadian Capitalist</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Jun 2009 17:59:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Remus: I don&#039;t think there is a special form. The T5 form sent by the broker has a box for &quot;Foreign Income&quot; and &quot;Foreign Tax Paid&quot;. Tax software adjusts the Canadian tax payable with the withholding tax already paid. 

Apparently, investors who are below the 15% tax bracket can get a refund on the withholding tax from the CRA. Canadian Financial DIY wrote about this but I&#039;m not in that situation.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Remus: I don&#8217;t think there is a special form. The T5 form sent by the broker has a box for &#8220;Foreign Income&#8221; and &#8220;Foreign Tax Paid&#8221;. Tax software adjusts the Canadian tax payable with the withholding tax already paid. </p>
<p>Apparently, investors who are below the 15% tax bracket can get a refund on the withholding tax from the CRA. Canadian Financial DIY wrote about this but I&#8217;m not in that situation.</p>
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