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		<title>By: Linkstuff For A Big Bad Bear Market</title>
		<link>http://www.canadiancapitalist.com/who-is-to-blame-for-the-credit-crisis/#comment-163150</link>
		<dc:creator>Linkstuff For A Big Bad Bear Market</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Oct 2008 08:59:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Capitalist wants to know who is to blame for the credit crisis?  There are a lot of parties involved in this mess and CC covers them [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Money, Stock and Finance &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Comment on Who is To Blame For the Credit Crisis? By Scotty</title>
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		<dc:creator>Money, Stock and Finance &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Comment on Who is To Blame For the Credit Crisis? By Scotty</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Oct 2008 06:51:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] In essence US banks did not care about risk assesment of pushing this policy and their own future existence like Washington Mutual , Wachovia etc. So when a homeowner loses a job, the homeowner is now in a difficult situation in paying &#8230;[Continue Reading] [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] In essence US banks did not care about risk assesment of pushing this policy and their own future existence like Washington Mutual , Wachovia etc. So when a homeowner loses a job, the homeowner is now in a difficult situation in paying &#8230;[Continue Reading] [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Scotty</title>
		<link>http://www.canadiancapitalist.com/who-is-to-blame-for-the-credit-crisis/#comment-161980</link>
		<dc:creator>Scotty</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Oct 2008 03:45:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>How about aggressive sales agents who pushed homeowners to remortage their homes for a nice  commission and then these assets are then packaged for wall street.  Where these sales agents benefiting themselves or looking after the interests of the homeowner?? 

What  about  the rating agencys who given these subprime assets AA standards ? Like Standard &amp; Poors..it seems that these rating agencies are also the blame for this  mess. These rating agencies have analysts that are suppose to check the credit worthiness of companies, bonds and other investment assets. Average investors use these reports  to help make an inform decision what  to invest in. For example, If X company bonds are rated a C+ rating and Y company has been rated an AAA+ rating then  which company would that Average investor  would buy?  So how come the gov&#039;t has not prosecuted these rating agencies  for not providing accurate ratings like they did with accounting firms in the late 90&#039;s.

How about mortage interest deductibility ?  it has a role in this subprime mess.  If one can deduct  mortage interest payments off income tax then their is no  incentive for the homeowner to own that home. The only people who benefit for mortage interest deductability are the banks. Banks in the US are basically Pimps and homeowners are the junkies.  So if Bank can then ask client X to trade up from their home which these homeowners can afford  to a higher valued home  (after all the mortage interest can be deducted from income taxes).  US  bank had no real interest of protecting the homeowner ability to pay /credit wothiness  (and bank future balance sheet)  US banks only cared about their short term profits  and the revenues that was generated from those interest payments with those new higher value homes  . In essence US banks did not care about risk assesment  of pushing this policy and their own future existence like Washington Mutual ,Wachovia  etc. So when  a homeowner loses a job, the  homeowner is now in a difficult situation in paying for these homes (though interest payments and mortage itself)  they could not afford to buy .  So the Homeowner has the following   options : 1) default 2) rearrange their  house loan or 3) Bank  foreclose 

1)So perhaps the Banks have been too greedy ? 
2) Homeowners buying  big  homes they couldn&#039;t afford to buy  (at the beheast of aggressive Bank  home mortage representatives and Real Estate agents )  and 
3) Gov&#039;t idiotic policy of mortage  interest deductability  policy which gives the incentive not to own ones home. If u own a house then the person can&#039;t deduct from his/her home on income tax the interest payments so its better for the owner just deduct the interest payments thereby reducing ones taxes then homeownership. Of coz , the Banks make large amounts of monies/revenues  from these transactions and its these Banks  and executives from these Banks which  contribute to political parties and politicians. Politicians are then beholding to these contributors  and make laws to the satisfaction of these individuals and corporations.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>How about aggressive sales agents who pushed homeowners to remortage their homes for a nice  commission and then these assets are then packaged for wall street.  Where these sales agents benefiting themselves or looking after the interests of the homeowner?? </p>
<p>What  about  the rating agencys who given these subprime assets AA standards ? Like Standard &amp; Poors..it seems that these rating agencies are also the blame for this  mess. These rating agencies have analysts that are suppose to check the credit worthiness of companies, bonds and other investment assets. Average investors use these reports  to help make an inform decision what  to invest in. For example, If X company bonds are rated a C+ rating and Y company has been rated an AAA+ rating then  which company would that Average investor  would buy?  So how come the gov&#8217;t has not prosecuted these rating agencies  for not providing accurate ratings like they did with accounting firms in the late 90&#8217;s.</p>
<p>How about mortage interest deductibility ?  it has a role in this subprime mess.  If one can deduct  mortage interest payments off income tax then their is no  incentive for the homeowner to own that home. The only people who benefit for mortage interest deductability are the banks. Banks in the US are basically Pimps and homeowners are the junkies.  So if Bank can then ask client X to trade up from their home which these homeowners can afford  to a higher valued home  (after all the mortage interest can be deducted from income taxes).  US  bank had no real interest of protecting the homeowner ability to pay /credit wothiness  (and bank future balance sheet)  US banks only cared about their short term profits  and the revenues that was generated from those interest payments with those new higher value homes  . In essence US banks did not care about risk assesment  of pushing this policy and their own future existence like Washington Mutual ,Wachovia  etc. So when  a homeowner loses a job, the  homeowner is now in a difficult situation in paying for these homes (though interest payments and mortage itself)  they could not afford to buy .  So the Homeowner has the following   options : 1) default 2) rearrange their  house loan or 3) Bank  foreclose </p>
<p>1)So perhaps the Banks have been too greedy ?<br />
2) Homeowners buying  big  homes they couldn&#8217;t afford to buy  (at the beheast of aggressive Bank  home mortage representatives and Real Estate agents )  and<br />
3) Gov&#8217;t idiotic policy of mortage  interest deductability  policy which gives the incentive not to own ones home. If u own a house then the person can&#8217;t deduct from his/her home on income tax the interest payments so its better for the owner just deduct the interest payments thereby reducing ones taxes then homeownership. Of coz , the Banks make large amounts of monies/revenues  from these transactions and its these Banks  and executives from these Banks which  contribute to political parties and politicians. Politicians are then beholding to these contributors  and make laws to the satisfaction of these individuals and corporations.</p>
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		<title>By: Weekly Roundup: Secret 5 Year Wedding Anniversary Weekend at Clever Dude Personal Finance &#38; Money</title>
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		<dc:creator>Weekly Roundup: Secret 5 Year Wedding Anniversary Weekend at Clever Dude Personal Finance &#38; Money</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Oct 2008 15:57:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] - Canadian Capitalist throws some blame around for the credit crisis. [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Steve Heath</title>
		<link>http://www.canadiancapitalist.com/who-is-to-blame-for-the-credit-crisis/#comment-161044</link>
		<dc:creator>Steve Heath</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Oct 2008 23:48:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A second problem with low interest rates is that between progressive taxes and inflation there&#039;s huge disincentives to saving.

If you work and your employment income pushes your savings up into a higher bracket, no matter how low your interest goes, you still lose up to 50% of it, which can push your returns below inflation.  This, of course, forced savers to move into the stock market to find returns that at least equalled inflation, causing bubbles there.

Even if you put it into your RRSP, saving it as fixed income would only yield you, lately, 1-1.5% over what the government claimed inflation is, but many people argue is an artificially low figure based on some CPI shell games, such as declaring ground beef an equivalent substitute for steak, so again, if you want to get ahead for retirement, you&#039;re looking for higher returns.

Lower interest rates pumped the market and pushed everyone to spend, and the only long term solution at this point is a period of higher interest rates after the crisis to allow families to build up their savings again in a safer environment than the market.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A second problem with low interest rates is that between progressive taxes and inflation there&#8217;s huge disincentives to saving.</p>
<p>If you work and your employment income pushes your savings up into a higher bracket, no matter how low your interest goes, you still lose up to 50% of it, which can push your returns below inflation.  This, of course, forced savers to move into the stock market to find returns that at least equalled inflation, causing bubbles there.</p>
<p>Even if you put it into your RRSP, saving it as fixed income would only yield you, lately, 1-1.5% over what the government claimed inflation is, but many people argue is an artificially low figure based on some CPI shell games, such as declaring ground beef an equivalent substitute for steak, so again, if you want to get ahead for retirement, you&#8217;re looking for higher returns.</p>
<p>Lower interest rates pumped the market and pushed everyone to spend, and the only long term solution at this point is a period of higher interest rates after the crisis to allow families to build up their savings again in a safer environment than the market.</p>
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		<title>By: Forone</title>
		<link>http://www.canadiancapitalist.com/who-is-to-blame-for-the-credit-crisis/#comment-161043</link>
		<dc:creator>Forone</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Oct 2008 23:03:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Don&#039;t blame the US retail homebuyers:  first, they were given assurances that in a couple of years they could re-fi in the unfailingly rising market and square all accounts on their more valuable home, but second, and even more importantly, because of the &quot;NINJA&quot; no down loan terms they had no skinny in the game - as soon as the market price sank below the value of the mortgage and showed no signs of recovery soon, they walked away sadder maybe, but not any poorer.  The fault is the breakdown, created by securitization, of the traditional direct first-level lender-borrower relationship that is still dominant in Canada.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Don&#8217;t blame the US retail homebuyers:  first, they were given assurances that in a couple of years they could re-fi in the unfailingly rising market and square all accounts on their more valuable home, but second, and even more importantly, because of the &#8220;NINJA&#8221; no down loan terms they had no skinny in the game &#8211; as soon as the market price sank below the value of the mortgage and showed no signs of recovery soon, they walked away sadder maybe, but not any poorer.  The fault is the breakdown, created by securitization, of the traditional direct first-level lender-borrower relationship that is still dominant in Canada.</p>
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		<title>By: tmoneybags</title>
		<link>http://www.canadiancapitalist.com/who-is-to-blame-for-the-credit-crisis/#comment-161002</link>
		<dc:creator>tmoneybags</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Oct 2008 17:36:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>pretty good video from 60 minutes about the credit default swap &quot;shadow market&quot; estimated at $60 trillion:

http://www.cbsnews.com/video/watch/?id=4502673n</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>pretty good video from 60 minutes about the credit default swap &#8220;shadow market&#8221; estimated at $60 trillion:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.cbsnews.com/video/watch/?id=4502673n" rel="nofollow">http://www.cbsnews.com/video/watch/?id=4502673n</a></p>
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		<title>By: Steve</title>
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		<dc:creator>Steve</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Oct 2008 16:58:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree with Al and Curt.  This problem was predicted by some as early as 2002.  Inflation was low, but that was skewed by an artificially cheap Yuan.  Access to money was too cheap, and GDP was expanded by wasting it via houses and consumer spending that no one needed.  Look at US consumer spending that was -1..0% in 2006.  Interest rates are going to have to rise at some point, to the detriment of corporate profits and easy economic growth, but in the long term it&#039;s necessary medicine after years of poor economic policy.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree with Al and Curt.  This problem was predicted by some as early as 2002.  Inflation was low, but that was skewed by an artificially cheap Yuan.  Access to money was too cheap, and GDP was expanded by wasting it via houses and consumer spending that no one needed.  Look at US consumer spending that was -1..0% in 2006.  Interest rates are going to have to rise at some point, to the detriment of corporate profits and easy economic growth, but in the long term it&#8217;s necessary medicine after years of poor economic policy.</p>
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		<title>By: Al</title>
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		<dc:creator>Al</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Oct 2008 16:24:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>CC,

I&#039;ve got to disagree with your response to Curt with regards to interest rates.  Banks have been setting their prime rate based upon changes by the various CBs.  And of course, the CBs have been keeping rates low.

The reason this matters is because it has led to horrible missallocation of resources.  Companies that shouldn&#039;t exist surving on cheap loans.  People buying furniture and electronic gadgets on credit.  Higher rates would have helped prevent this (would you buy a $1000 couch on credit if it cost you 8% per year?)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>CC,</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve got to disagree with your response to Curt with regards to interest rates.  Banks have been setting their prime rate based upon changes by the various CBs.  And of course, the CBs have been keeping rates low.</p>
<p>The reason this matters is because it has led to horrible missallocation of resources.  Companies that shouldn&#8217;t exist surving on cheap loans.  People buying furniture and electronic gadgets on credit.  Higher rates would have helped prevent this (would you buy a $1000 couch on credit if it cost you 8% per year?)</p>
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		<title>By: Canadian Capitalist</title>
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		<dc:creator>Canadian Capitalist</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Oct 2008 15:41:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mike: There will be another insanity pretty soon. In only eight years, we&#039;ve seen dot com stocks, income trusts and the credit crunch. It&#039;s a safe bet that there will be more and soon.

Brad: Funny but that pretty much sums up Wall Street&#039;s conduct.

Eric: That&#039;s a great article -- unregulated derivative markets look excessively stupid in retrospect.

Curt: Low interest rates are hardly to blame here -- inflation is low and it figures that interest rates would be low as well. Look at long-term interest rates that are mostly set by market forces, which have remained low.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mike: There will be another insanity pretty soon. In only eight years, we&#8217;ve seen dot com stocks, income trusts and the credit crunch. It&#8217;s a safe bet that there will be more and soon.</p>
<p>Brad: Funny but that pretty much sums up Wall Street&#8217;s conduct.</p>
<p>Eric: That&#8217;s a great article &#8212; unregulated derivative markets look excessively stupid in retrospect.</p>
<p>Curt: Low interest rates are hardly to blame here &#8212; inflation is low and it figures that interest rates would be low as well. Look at long-term interest rates that are mostly set by market forces, which have remained low.</p>
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