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		<title>By: Shaheer.T</title>
		<link>http://www.canadiancapitalist.com/the-conservative-tax-trick/#comment-160859</link>
		<dc:creator>Shaheer.T</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Oct 2008 18:22:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Can sum 1 Plz tell me What CArbon taxes is? And where does the Money Go!?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Can sum 1 Plz tell me What CArbon taxes is? And where does the Money Go!?</p>
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		<title>By: Traciatim</title>
		<link>http://www.canadiancapitalist.com/the-conservative-tax-trick/#comment-137931</link>
		<dc:creator>Traciatim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 14 Jun 2008 12:00:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I hope it has made you think about your actions when voting. Supporting a tax grab that specifically targets energy and food is not OK.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I hope it has made you think about your actions when voting. Supporting a tax grab that specifically targets energy and food is not OK.</p>
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		<title>By: Pushing Thirty</title>
		<link>http://www.canadiancapitalist.com/the-conservative-tax-trick/#comment-137869</link>
		<dc:creator>Pushing Thirty</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 14 Jun 2008 00:52:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Traciatim, wow...your response has stunned and almost left me speechless.  There is a lot of anger in your writing.   I have no hate on for anyone.  I was merely responding to an interesting post by CC.  Perhaps you should reread what I wrote.  Best of luck to you.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Traciatim, wow&#8230;your response has stunned and almost left me speechless.  There is a lot of anger in your writing.   I have no hate on for anyone.  I was merely responding to an interesting post by CC.  Perhaps you should reread what I wrote.  Best of luck to you.</p>
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		<title>By: Traciatim</title>
		<link>http://www.canadiancapitalist.com/the-conservative-tax-trick/#comment-137808</link>
		<dc:creator>Traciatim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Jun 2008 10:51:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey Pushing Thirty, you say you aren&#039;t opposed to a carbon tax as long as corporation pay for them. Are you aware that corporations don&#039;t really pay corporate taxes, they are simply factored in to the prices of their goods and services making them more expensive? 

Since the two largest anthropogenic greenhouse gas emission sources are energy and food, a carbon tax will significantly increase the cost of home heating, home cooling, and eating. Is that really what you want to see?

I mean maybe you have a severe hate on for disabled people,  seniors, and others on fixed incomes but I think that plan stinks.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey Pushing Thirty, you say you aren&#8217;t opposed to a carbon tax as long as corporation pay for them. Are you aware that corporations don&#8217;t really pay corporate taxes, they are simply factored in to the prices of their goods and services making them more expensive? </p>
<p>Since the two largest anthropogenic greenhouse gas emission sources are energy and food, a carbon tax will significantly increase the cost of home heating, home cooling, and eating. Is that really what you want to see?</p>
<p>I mean maybe you have a severe hate on for disabled people,  seniors, and others on fixed incomes but I think that plan stinks.</p>
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		<title>By: Warren</title>
		<link>http://www.canadiancapitalist.com/the-conservative-tax-trick/#comment-137747</link>
		<dc:creator>Warren</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Jun 2008 02:29:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Its a one time deal, new vehicles only.  You don&#039;t even have to buy, a 1 year lease qualifies(!).  If I bought that 1/2 ton new I&#039;d be paying $1000 extra and then some though.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Its a one time deal, new vehicles only.  You don&#8217;t even have to buy, a 1 year lease qualifies(!).  If I bought that 1/2 ton new I&#8217;d be paying $1000 extra and then some though.</p>
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		<title>By: Pushing Thirty</title>
		<link>http://www.canadiancapitalist.com/the-conservative-tax-trick/#comment-137746</link>
		<dc:creator>Pushing Thirty</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Jun 2008 02:06:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>CC, great topic - definitely one we should all explore further.  I have to agree with many of the readers that a fixed tax hurts those in less fortunate situations more than those with a higher income.  At the same time, I am not opposed to carbon or any other environment related taxes but do wish to see the corporations pay the majority of the bill.  Especially those in Alberta.  And yes, I live in Alberta.  

And a question for Warren...the $1000 rebate on a new Yaris, is that a one time deal?  What if you sell it six months later and get a half ton truck?  Just asking.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>CC, great topic &#8211; definitely one we should all explore further.  I have to agree with many of the readers that a fixed tax hurts those in less fortunate situations more than those with a higher income.  At the same time, I am not opposed to carbon or any other environment related taxes but do wish to see the corporations pay the majority of the bill.  Especially those in Alberta.  And yes, I live in Alberta.  </p>
<p>And a question for Warren&#8230;the $1000 rebate on a new Yaris, is that a one time deal?  What if you sell it six months later and get a half ton truck?  Just asking.</p>
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		<title>By: Robillard</title>
		<link>http://www.canadiancapitalist.com/the-conservative-tax-trick/#comment-137693</link>
		<dc:creator>Robillard</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Jun 2008 15:31:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>CC, the tax burden is flatter burden is flatter than you think when you consider the effect of payroll taxes, such as EI and CPP/QPP (which are borne primarily by the worker), the flow-through effects of corporate taxes (which accrue to households in the form of higher prices, smaller dividend disbursements, slower capital accumulation, decreased spending on labour and other deadweight loss) and excise taxes on certain goods such as gasoline and cigarettes. I didn&#039;t mean to say that the tax burden was shared equally across all income groups. It&#039;s just that the system is only mildly progressive. 

A person with a $25,000 income may only pay an apparent income tax rate of 10.8%, but if he spends all his remaining earnings, he pays maybe around 12% more in sales taxes. The apparent tax rate also ignores CPP and EI paid by both he and the employer. The employer&#039;s portion flows through to worker in lower gross pay. After accounting for that and any of his spending on goods subject to excise taxes, the person&#039;s tax burden is probably close to or over 30% of income.

High income earners spend less of their income and save more, so the burden of sales taxes is lessened considerably. Also, CPP and EI start declining as a percentage of income above a certain point.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>CC, the tax burden is flatter burden is flatter than you think when you consider the effect of payroll taxes, such as EI and CPP/QPP (which are borne primarily by the worker), the flow-through effects of corporate taxes (which accrue to households in the form of higher prices, smaller dividend disbursements, slower capital accumulation, decreased spending on labour and other deadweight loss) and excise taxes on certain goods such as gasoline and cigarettes. I didn&#8217;t mean to say that the tax burden was shared equally across all income groups. It&#8217;s just that the system is only mildly progressive. </p>
<p>A person with a $25,000 income may only pay an apparent income tax rate of 10.8%, but if he spends all his remaining earnings, he pays maybe around 12% more in sales taxes. The apparent tax rate also ignores CPP and EI paid by both he and the employer. The employer&#8217;s portion flows through to worker in lower gross pay. After accounting for that and any of his spending on goods subject to excise taxes, the person&#8217;s tax burden is probably close to or over 30% of income.</p>
<p>High income earners spend less of their income and save more, so the burden of sales taxes is lessened considerably. Also, CPP and EI start declining as a percentage of income above a certain point.</p>
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		<title>By: Christine</title>
		<link>http://www.canadiancapitalist.com/the-conservative-tax-trick/#comment-137625</link>
		<dc:creator>Christine</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Jun 2008 22:29:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My only comment is that I am sick to death of the Conservatives still needing to undercut Liberal policies. If they were actually doing a great job governing, they wouldn&#039;t need to continue to harvest votes when they&#039;re supposed to be running the country. I want action, not political partisan bickering.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My only comment is that I am sick to death of the Conservatives still needing to undercut Liberal policies. If they were actually doing a great job governing, they wouldn&#8217;t need to continue to harvest votes when they&#8217;re supposed to be running the country. I want action, not political partisan bickering.</p>
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		<title>By: Warren</title>
		<link>http://www.canadiancapitalist.com/the-conservative-tax-trick/#comment-137613</link>
		<dc:creator>Warren</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Jun 2008 19:53:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I didn&#039;t vote Conservative but I had some hopes for them when they came into office.  A fresh face from the Liberals who did some good things in office but just got too corrupt for their own good.

That being said, they ruined it right out of the gate with the Income Trust tax debacle.  It was obvious to most economists that these vehicles couldn&#039;t continue to exist, so why lie?  Oh ya, vote buying.

This is another kick in the balls.  I got a $1000 rebate for my 2007 Yaris, and it factored into the decision making.  I think it was a great idea... and &quot;revenue neutrality&quot; or something close to it is welcome.

I live in BC, so we&#039;re getting the carbon tax shortly, but first I&#039;ll get a $100 rebate ($200 total with my girlfriend).  Combined with lower income taxes, this will more than offset the tax we will pay on gas for the Yaris over the next 12 months.  Factoring in the increased cost for food and whatnot is more complex.

Regarding tax methods, income tax has the biggest economic detriment.  I&#039;d love to see the GST raised to 10%, and the equivalent tax break applied to income tax in the form of a higher basic exemption.  It would encourage work and savings.. but clearly political suicide.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I didn&#8217;t vote Conservative but I had some hopes for them when they came into office.  A fresh face from the Liberals who did some good things in office but just got too corrupt for their own good.</p>
<p>That being said, they ruined it right out of the gate with the Income Trust tax debacle.  It was obvious to most economists that these vehicles couldn&#8217;t continue to exist, so why lie?  Oh ya, vote buying.</p>
<p>This is another kick in the balls.  I got a $1000 rebate for my 2007 Yaris, and it factored into the decision making.  I think it was a great idea&#8230; and &#8220;revenue neutrality&#8221; or something close to it is welcome.</p>
<p>I live in BC, so we&#8217;re getting the carbon tax shortly, but first I&#8217;ll get a $100 rebate ($200 total with my girlfriend).  Combined with lower income taxes, this will more than offset the tax we will pay on gas for the Yaris over the next 12 months.  Factoring in the increased cost for food and whatnot is more complex.</p>
<p>Regarding tax methods, income tax has the biggest economic detriment.  I&#8217;d love to see the GST raised to 10%, and the equivalent tax break applied to income tax in the form of a higher basic exemption.  It would encourage work and savings.. but clearly political suicide.</p>
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		<title>By: ThickenMyWallet</title>
		<link>http://www.canadiancapitalist.com/the-conservative-tax-trick/#comment-137596</link>
		<dc:creator>ThickenMyWallet</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Jun 2008 17:23:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It is too early to comment on Dion&#039;s proposals but never under-estimate politicians of all political stripes to become used-car salesmen when trying to get a complicated point across.

However, markets hate uncertainty and most governments are blowing it on the environmental file. The President of Sheritt International stated at the last annual shareholders meeting that all he wants is some clear guidelines on how to deal with carbon emissions (good or bad).  Then, he can make the proper and informed decision. All we have now, other than B.C., is a bunch of pie in the sky, hogwash about emissions targets 30-40 years out with vague, weasel words and code. Just give us a damn, easy to follow, framework- good or bad- and we can make adjustments.

As also pointed out by a columnist, politicians either do nothing or too much. If they sat on their hands and let gas prices rise, the market would adjust accordingly.  Look at all the talk about regulating SUV&#039;s in the 1990&#039;s. Now the market is gone and the government didn&#039;t have to do anything. 

Politicians- I tell ya...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It is too early to comment on Dion&#8217;s proposals but never under-estimate politicians of all political stripes to become used-car salesmen when trying to get a complicated point across.</p>
<p>However, markets hate uncertainty and most governments are blowing it on the environmental file. The President of Sheritt International stated at the last annual shareholders meeting that all he wants is some clear guidelines on how to deal with carbon emissions (good or bad).  Then, he can make the proper and informed decision. All we have now, other than B.C., is a bunch of pie in the sky, hogwash about emissions targets 30-40 years out with vague, weasel words and code. Just give us a damn, easy to follow, framework- good or bad- and we can make adjustments.</p>
<p>As also pointed out by a columnist, politicians either do nothing or too much. If they sat on their hands and let gas prices rise, the market would adjust accordingly.  Look at all the talk about regulating SUV&#8217;s in the 1990&#8242;s. Now the market is gone and the government didn&#8217;t have to do anything. </p>
<p>Politicians- I tell ya&#8230;</p>
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