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moneysense.ca, 16/01/07
RRSPs are (Mostly) a Good Thing
I couldn’t resist commenting on the specious reasoning that Jim Stanford, an economist with the Canadian Auto Workers Union, advanced in a column in The Globe and Mail. Mr. Stanford argues that Canadians should tune out the commercials during the RRSP season and invest in their homes instead because:
At the end of the day, you have something to show for it. That’s a lot more than can be said for the outrageous management fees paid each year to well-dressed money managers sitting around Bay Street throwing darts at dartboards.
While it is always nice to know that the club of people-who-detest-high-fee-mutual-funds is expanding, Mr. Stanford’s prescription for a cure is worse than the disease:
On its own, home ownership does not constitute an adequate retirement plan; for that, we need healthy public and workplace pensions. But it’s a much better bet than playing the markets.
Mr. Stanford may not have noticed but workplace pensions are going the way of the dodo, replaced either by defined contribution plans (for the lucky employees of a few big corporations) or none at all for the majority of Canadians. For many of us, our RRSPs, not our homes, are our pension plans and having one doesn’t have to mean lining Bay Street’s pockets at our expense.
Update: Growth in Value and Canadian Dream commented on this very same column in their blogs.
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Thanks to financial blogs like yours that counter arguments like those in that article!
Well said! I too am tired of the CAW giving advice that worked back in the 70′s
I am a “real” Canadian person with a family that is staring retirement in the face in less than 15 years. There is no pension out there for me or most Canadians or one that you can rely on to pay all the bills in retirement.
RSP’s and investments will help secure your future. Your principal residence is mainly an inflation fighter and a place to give your life meaning, feel secure and to pass along family values.
As much as I would like to see people “invest in their homes”, it’s not enough to retire on. By the time your retire, and even if your principal residence doubles in value in 20 years, so too will your expenses and retirement needs. You still need a roof over your head and even if you downsize and take out $200k to $300k, it’s not enough to last 20 or more retirement years.
I am a little biased due to my career, but buying a second or third investment property will almost guarantee a secure future and healthy retirement income in 20 years.
Just my 2 cents.
All the best,
Mark
To Mark #2: Does your bias imply that you work in real estate? I had recently been evaluating buying investment property, but I chickened out when faced with the prospects of property maintenance. I currently work out of town so my availability to fix things or show the property to prospective new renters is virtually nil. I decided that it is much more feasible for me to buy REIT units instead.
CC,
It looks like everyone is posting on this article today.
Growth in Value at http://growthinvalue.blogspot.com/ has a post and I’ve also got a post on the same article.
CD
I’ve updated the post with links to your comments. I actually noticed the column only because GIV blogged about it. I agree with you that a house is a roof over our heads; not a retirement plan.
Phil: Mark works in real estate and has posted his website in his comment.
I kind of glossed over my objection to his ‘house + public pensions’ theory, but yeah — that’s certainly an interesting position for an economist (of all people) to take.
“Don’t buy RRSPs — just pay off your mortgage, remodel your kitchen and rely on OAS, you’ll be fine…”
Doesn’t the mantra of diversification apply to retirement planning too? It’s surely a good thing to own a home outright, but does that really have to come at the expense of any other investments?
As much as I take issue with Stanford’s bi-weekly rantings, I agree with him in this instance – partially. Bay Street really does exaggerate how much the average person will need in retirement – usually the figure they cite is something like 70% of pre-retirement income.
In actuality, most people won’t need anywhere near that level of retirement income if their home is paid off. I completely agree that a principal residence can’t provide an income stream, but owning your home goes a long ways towards securing financial freedom.
It’s easy for me to say, since I’m lucky enough to have a defined-benefit plan, but to listen to many financial planners, 80% of Canadians are going to be forced to subsist on catfood when they retire…
Al: I’ll agree that a paid-off home is a major step towards retirement and I’ll also agree that there is a lot of self-interest in Bay Street’s advice on RRSPs. But to me the problem seems to be that many Canadians are saving too little (especially those without any pension plans. OAS+CPP = $2400 per month for a senior couple), not too much as evidenced from many StatsCan surveys. Mr. Stanford’s prescription seems to be that we are not saving anyways, so why bother?
Although brief, the article does not mention at all that for some people, tackling their high-interest debt is far more important than RSP contributions.
Also the simple fax is depending on your marginal tax rate, RSP contributions are more rewarding to top bracket earners. If you can get 44 cents back of taxes on the dollar, rather than 21, obviously it makes sense for more than others.
RSPs should be treated on a case by case basis, and not everyone painted with the same brush on either side of the argument.
Jon: Fair enough. RRSPs are not for everyone (that’s why I put mostly in the title). A convincing case can be made that those already in the lowest tax bracket are better off saving in taxable accounts. Also, in any tax bracket, getting rid of credit card debt must be the first priority.
Actually the implied point (as noted) is that there really needs to be public support for pensions.
And for all his wrongheaded argument he probably does have a point-most Canadians who do not home a home do not have an RRSP either. It’s not simply that the average RRSP is small (the figure is misleading) but that the overwhelming majority of RRSP assets are in the hands of the wealthy and upper middle class.
I wouldn’t want to try and retire on the value of a typical middle-class home bought in the cities of Flint, Detroit, or Cleveland a generation ago. Few rustbelt cities have seen the property price appreciation of Toronto. In some deteriorating neighbourhoods, prices have fallen.
[...] As the deadline for contributions to your RRSP approaches (March 1, 2007 is the deadline for 2006 contributions), you are going to be bombarded with full-page newspaper ads, commercials in television and radio and even phone calls at home (I’ve received three calls already). Instead of being hustled into doing something, take a deep breath and find out if making a contribution even makes sense for your financial situation. While RRSP’s are mostly a good thing because they allow you to contribute pre-tax dollars and you get to defer taxes on interest income, dividends or capital gains you receive within it, they may not be suitable for everyone. [...]
I believe what he is getting at, is what Shillington says on his website.
http://www.shillington.ca/Financial_Planning/General_Advice.htm
That is, that unless you have about $100,000 in RRSPs, you are probably better off having none.
The Average Joe is being taken on an RRSP ride by the financial industry
Actually most “rich people” don’t bother with RRSPs because they have figured out (or have people to figure out for them) much better arrangements.
The one person that easily qualifies as a “rich person” (extreme wealth) in my extended family has no RRSP. He accumulates equity with borrowed money…in his case he has chosen to acquire vast real estate holdings…using the equity to borrow (the interest is fully refunded by the government despite the fact that he is worth tens of millions) and generate income and acquire more real estate. Understanding more about what the wealthy do actually helps understand why investment strategies like the smith manoeuvre make so much sense. Unfortunately the middle class tend to do exactly what the banking and investment industry tells them to do – to the benefit of the industry and detriment of the middle class.