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		<title>By: Charles</title>
		<link>http://www.canadiancapitalist.com/passive-investing-in-a-range-bound-market/#comment-143233</link>
		<dc:creator>Charles</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Jul 2008 20:17:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So this comment comes pretty late in the game but I stumbled onto another quote from this book and came to this blog entry.

Regarding the wisdom of passive investing in such a market, I would imagine that it just magnifies the importance of allocating to indices that are as uncorrelated as possible, and rebalancing regularly. If it&#039;s unlikely that any one market will reach its multi-year high/low at the same time as any other, then won&#039;t a passive investor will get better returns than any of the individual markets?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So this comment comes pretty late in the game but I stumbled onto another quote from this book and came to this blog entry.</p>
<p>Regarding the wisdom of passive investing in such a market, I would imagine that it just magnifies the importance of allocating to indices that are as uncorrelated as possible, and rebalancing regularly. If it&#8217;s unlikely that any one market will reach its multi-year high/low at the same time as any other, then won&#8217;t a passive investor will get better returns than any of the individual markets?</p>
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		<title>By: Millionaireby45</title>
		<link>http://www.canadiancapitalist.com/passive-investing-in-a-range-bound-market/#comment-137581</link>
		<dc:creator>Millionaireby45</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Jun 2008 16:38:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There is a great clip on BNN today describing the differences between Passive and Active Investments.   Both sides make very valid points and it comes down to the specific individual to decide what they are more comfortable with.  Worth checking out.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There is a great clip on BNN today describing the differences between Passive and Active Investments.   Both sides make very valid points and it comes down to the specific individual to decide what they are more comfortable with.  Worth checking out.</p>
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		<title>By: Mike</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mike</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Oct 2007 12:09:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In a range bound market, if things just go up and down without a steady incline, then likewise the indexes will stay bound as well.  If thats the case, does this suggest that mutual fund indexes/ETF&#039;s are not the right way to go in this type of market?  I would hope that good managers of mutual funds would realize this and start positioning their portfolio (dividends/bonds/cash).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In a range bound market, if things just go up and down without a steady incline, then likewise the indexes will stay bound as well.  If thats the case, does this suggest that mutual fund indexes/ETF&#8217;s are not the right way to go in this type of market?  I would hope that good managers of mutual funds would realize this and start positioning their portfolio (dividends/bonds/cash).</p>
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		<title>By: Canadian Capitalist</title>
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		<dc:creator>Canadian Capitalist</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Oct 2007 21:44:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>MG: Future change in p/e = who knows is right? It may be an educated guess, but it is a guess, nonetheless.

Earnings growth however is fairly stable. Over the past 5 decades, it has been 5.5%, 9.9%, 4.4%, 7.4% and 5.7%, so a 5%-6% guess isn&#039;t likely to be wildly off. Compare earnings growth to p/e changes (Bogle calls it speculative return) over the same time period: -1%, -7.5%, 7.7%, 7.2% and -8%.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>MG: Future change in p/e = who knows is right? It may be an educated guess, but it is a guess, nonetheless.</p>
<p>Earnings growth however is fairly stable. Over the past 5 decades, it has been 5.5%, 9.9%, 4.4%, 7.4% and 5.7%, so a 5%-6% guess isn&#8217;t likely to be wildly off. Compare earnings growth to p/e changes (Bogle calls it speculative return) over the same time period: -1%, -7.5%, 7.7%, 7.2% and -8%.</p>
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		<title>By: moneygardener</title>
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		<dc:creator>moneygardener</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Oct 2007 18:45:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have to agree with 4P.

Future Earnings growth = Who knows?  Could be 4% per year, could be 12% per year....nobody could really give an argument to support knowing this with any certainty.

Future Change in P/E = who knows (far too many factors go into this)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have to agree with 4P.</p>
<p>Future Earnings growth = Who knows?  Could be 4% per year, could be 12% per year&#8230;.nobody could really give an argument to support knowing this with any certainty.</p>
<p>Future Change in P/E = who knows (far too many factors go into this)</p>
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		<title>By: Canadian Capitalist</title>
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		<dc:creator>Canadian Capitalist</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Oct 2007 16:17:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh and the same goes for bond returns. Total 10-year bond returns have a 90% correlation with current yield. So, over the next 10 years bonds are likely to yield 4% returns.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh and the same goes for bond returns. Total 10-year bond returns have a 90% correlation with current yield. So, over the next 10 years bonds are likely to yield 4% returns.</p>
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		<title>By: Canadian Capitalist</title>
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		<dc:creator>Canadian Capitalist</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Oct 2007 16:14:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mike: The surprising fact is that long-term performance of equities can be predicted, at least vaguely.

For instance, Vitaliy&#039;s position is not that far from John Bogle&#039;s, who estimates future equity returns based on:

initial dividend yield + earnings growth + change in p/e

Bogle doesn&#039;t take a position on change in p/e and figures it will be the same 16 or 17 it is today and hence figures a 10-year returns in the 7% range. Vitaliy figures p/e will be lower in the future, based on past history. And to be fair, Vitaliy does note that he could be wrong but doubts it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mike: The surprising fact is that long-term performance of equities can be predicted, at least vaguely.</p>
<p>For instance, Vitaliy&#8217;s position is not that far from John Bogle&#8217;s, who estimates future equity returns based on:</p>
<p>initial dividend yield + earnings growth + change in p/e</p>
<p>Bogle doesn&#8217;t take a position on change in p/e and figures it will be the same 16 or 17 it is today and hence figures a 10-year returns in the 7% range. Vitaliy figures p/e will be lower in the future, based on past history. And to be fair, Vitaliy does note that he could be wrong but doubts it.</p>
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		<title>By: FourPillars</title>
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		<dc:creator>FourPillars</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Oct 2007 15:10:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have to admit that I don&#039;t believe anyone can predict the future when it comes to economics so as interesting as this book might be - I&#039;ll be ignoring the conclusions.

Mike</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have to admit that I don&#8217;t believe anyone can predict the future when it comes to economics so as interesting as this book might be &#8211; I&#8217;ll be ignoring the conclusions.</p>
<p>Mike</p>
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		<title>By: Canadian Capitalist</title>
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		<dc:creator>Canadian Capitalist</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Oct 2007 14:56:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Kirby: I am working on a series of posts on advisors that I hope will help answer your question.

Phil: The trouble with life expectancy is that it&#039;s an average. If you are 40, there&#039;s a 50% chance that you will live to 85 (not 72). If you are married and your spouse is also 40, there is a 50% chance that one of you will live another 51 years! You can play around with different scenarios available on this website:

&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.retireearlyhomepage.com/lesafe.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Link&lt;/a&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Kirby: I am working on a series of posts on advisors that I hope will help answer your question.</p>
<p>Phil: The trouble with life expectancy is that it&#8217;s an average. If you are 40, there&#8217;s a 50% chance that you will live to 85 (not 72). If you are married and your spouse is also 40, there is a 50% chance that one of you will live another 51 years! You can play around with different scenarios available on this website:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.retireearlyhomepage.com/lesafe.html" rel="nofollow">Link</a></p>
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		<title>By: moneygardener</title>
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		<dc:creator>moneygardener</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Oct 2007 14:43:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In my opinion the concept of a range bound market just reinforces the power of dividends, and companies that grow dividends consistently.  Even if high dividend growers share price becomes range bound you will receive an ever increasing dividend, and have further opportunitied to accumulate at higher yields.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In my opinion the concept of a range bound market just reinforces the power of dividends, and companies that grow dividends consistently.  Even if high dividend growers share price becomes range bound you will receive an ever increasing dividend, and have further opportunitied to accumulate at higher yields.</p>
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