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		<title>By: Intelligent Speculator &#124; Financial Ramblings</title>
		<link>http://www.canadiancapitalist.com/emotions-affects-fixed-income-investors-too/#comment-200884</link>
		<dc:creator>Intelligent Speculator &#124; Financial Ramblings</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 27 Sep 2009 16:02:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] did talk about fixed income ETF&#8217;s look at a trade on one of them here  -How emotions affect fixed income investors by Canadian Capitalist -A great article by FP..how to find and select a tenant! -Will interest [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] did talk about fixed income ETF&#8217;s look at a trade on one of them here  -How emotions affect fixed income investors by Canadian Capitalist -A great article by FP..how to find and select a tenant! -Will interest [...]</p>
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		<title>By: A Lap Of The Blogs : WhereDoesAllMyMoneyGo.com</title>
		<link>http://www.canadiancapitalist.com/emotions-affects-fixed-income-investors-too/#comment-200812</link>
		<dc:creator>A Lap Of The Blogs : WhereDoesAllMyMoneyGo.com</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Sep 2009 23:33:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] that theme, Canadian Capitalist explains that fixed income investors are subject to emotions too &#8211; because they are subject to less volatility over the long run does that mean they are [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Return To Questrade Deal, Blog Highlight and Last Linkstuff &#171; Daily News</title>
		<link>http://www.canadiancapitalist.com/emotions-affects-fixed-income-investors-too/#comment-200808</link>
		<dc:creator>Return To Questrade Deal, Blog Highlight and Last Linkstuff &#171; Daily News</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Sep 2009 21:08:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Capitalist asks if fixed-income investors have the same problems as equity investors when it comes to sticking to their investment [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Basil2</title>
		<link>http://www.canadiancapitalist.com/emotions-affects-fixed-income-investors-too/#comment-200800</link>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Sep 2009 17:38:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;CC said: The lower returns from fixed income means they have to plan to save much more right from the beginning&quot;

Agreed. 

&quot;CC said: Bonds, after all, are a promise to return the nominal face value. Inflation could eat up that value&quot;

Longer duration bond returns should reflect expectations about inflation. One way to take care about inflation risk is to buy for example 5 yr bond every year and sell a 5 yr bond that matured that year. That way you will keep your overall returns somewhat in line with inflation.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;CC said: The lower returns from fixed income means they have to plan to save much more right from the beginning&#8221;</p>
<p>Agreed. </p>
<p>&#8220;CC said: Bonds, after all, are a promise to return the nominal face value. Inflation could eat up that value&#8221;</p>
<p>Longer duration bond returns should reflect expectations about inflation. One way to take care about inflation risk is to buy for example 5 yr bond every year and sell a 5 yr bond that matured that year. That way you will keep your overall returns somewhat in line with inflation.</p>
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		<title>By: Return To Questrade Deal, Blog Highlight and Last Linkstuff</title>
		<link>http://www.canadiancapitalist.com/emotions-affects-fixed-income-investors-too/#comment-200777</link>
		<dc:creator>Return To Questrade Deal, Blog Highlight and Last Linkstuff</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Sep 2009 09:02:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Capitalist asks if fixed-income investors have the same problems as equity investors when it comes to sticking to their investment [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Canadian Capitalist</title>
		<link>http://www.canadiancapitalist.com/emotions-affects-fixed-income-investors-too/#comment-200761</link>
		<dc:creator>Canadian Capitalist</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Sep 2009 02:43:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@TEMPLE: DT assumes that GICs are held in tax-deferred accounts such as RRSPs and TFSAs. In taxable accounts, you are right. The tax treatment makes a huge difference to after-tax returns.

@Basil2: Personally, I don&#039;t think a 100% stock portfolio is suitable for most people. In the same vein, I don&#039;t think a 100% fixed income portfolio is suitable either. Most people cannot afford to avoid stocks altogether. The lower returns from fixed income means they have to plan to save much more right from the beginning. The best way to manage risk is to hold a suitable mix of both -- not avoid one entirely in favour of another.

@Phil: I agree with characterizing bonds as wealth preservers. But there is risks in bonds also -- the risk that they won&#039;t keep up with inflation. Bonds, after all, are a promise to return the nominal face value. Inflation could eat up that value. Today, we have real-return bonds. But they aren&#039;t risk-free either. A person&#039;s personal experience of inflation may not be comparable to the Government&#039;s definition at all. The point is there are risks with every asset classes -- nothing is truly risk free.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@TEMPLE: DT assumes that GICs are held in tax-deferred accounts such as RRSPs and TFSAs. In taxable accounts, you are right. The tax treatment makes a huge difference to after-tax returns.</p>
<p>@Basil2: Personally, I don&#8217;t think a 100% stock portfolio is suitable for most people. In the same vein, I don&#8217;t think a 100% fixed income portfolio is suitable either. Most people cannot afford to avoid stocks altogether. The lower returns from fixed income means they have to plan to save much more right from the beginning. The best way to manage risk is to hold a suitable mix of both &#8212; not avoid one entirely in favour of another.</p>
<p>@Phil: I agree with characterizing bonds as wealth preservers. But there is risks in bonds also &#8212; the risk that they won&#8217;t keep up with inflation. Bonds, after all, are a promise to return the nominal face value. Inflation could eat up that value. Today, we have real-return bonds. But they aren&#8217;t risk-free either. A person&#8217;s personal experience of inflation may not be comparable to the Government&#8217;s definition at all. The point is there are risks with every asset classes &#8212; nothing is truly risk free.</p>
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		<title>By: Phil S</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Sep 2009 00:57:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think the comparison between stocks and fixed income go much deeper than just evaluating the returns.  In my opinion, the philosophical purpose of a fixed income product is NOT an investment - it is a method of capital preservation, a way to &quot;park your cash&quot; while you are waiting for something to transpire.

In the case of a 25-yr bond, it would be there waiting for your retirement - if you are 25 yrs away from retirement.  In the case of a 5-yr GIC, it could be money set aside to buy a new car if you have, say, 5 or 6 yrs of life expectancy remaining in your current vehicle.  Or, it could be the down payment on a house if you set a goal of 5 yrs to save enough money to buy a house.  Or really any major capital purchase.  A boat, a round-the-world vacation, whatever.  A high-interest savings account is used for emergency funds because it isn&#039;t &quot;locked in&quot; for some term like a GIC.

The problem with buying stocks is that you&#039;re not guaranteed to have that cash 25 yrs from now at retirement.  Or in 5 yrs to buy that new car or put the down payment on a house.  While the POTENTIAL is there to outpace the investment return of a bond or GIC, it&#039;s not guaranteed to be there WHEN YOU NEED IT.

Of course, when I say &quot;fixed income&quot;, I&#039;m referring to government bonds and CDIC backed GICs.  As we&#039;ve seen with corporate bonds and commercial paper, they can be as volatile as stocks and they may not be there when you need it!  I also exclude bond FUNDS, which I would never advocate anybody to buy - I&#039;m referring to actual bonds which have a maturity date and you&#039;re guaranteed the return of your principal.

If you&#039;re into buying corporate bonds, then I actually put it in the same category as buying stocks in terms of risk.  The main difference is that you know what your investment return will be if the company survives to your maturity date!  And, of course, there is more money in the pot available for you than a common shareholder if the company goes bust.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think the comparison between stocks and fixed income go much deeper than just evaluating the returns.  In my opinion, the philosophical purpose of a fixed income product is NOT an investment &#8211; it is a method of capital preservation, a way to &#8220;park your cash&#8221; while you are waiting for something to transpire.</p>
<p>In the case of a 25-yr bond, it would be there waiting for your retirement &#8211; if you are 25 yrs away from retirement.  In the case of a 5-yr GIC, it could be money set aside to buy a new car if you have, say, 5 or 6 yrs of life expectancy remaining in your current vehicle.  Or, it could be the down payment on a house if you set a goal of 5 yrs to save enough money to buy a house.  Or really any major capital purchase.  A boat, a round-the-world vacation, whatever.  A high-interest savings account is used for emergency funds because it isn&#8217;t &#8220;locked in&#8221; for some term like a GIC.</p>
<p>The problem with buying stocks is that you&#8217;re not guaranteed to have that cash 25 yrs from now at retirement.  Or in 5 yrs to buy that new car or put the down payment on a house.  While the POTENTIAL is there to outpace the investment return of a bond or GIC, it&#8217;s not guaranteed to be there WHEN YOU NEED IT.</p>
<p>Of course, when I say &#8220;fixed income&#8221;, I&#8217;m referring to government bonds and CDIC backed GICs.  As we&#8217;ve seen with corporate bonds and commercial paper, they can be as volatile as stocks and they may not be there when you need it!  I also exclude bond FUNDS, which I would never advocate anybody to buy &#8211; I&#8217;m referring to actual bonds which have a maturity date and you&#8217;re guaranteed the return of your principal.</p>
<p>If you&#8217;re into buying corporate bonds, then I actually put it in the same category as buying stocks in terms of risk.  The main difference is that you know what your investment return will be if the company survives to your maturity date!  And, of course, there is more money in the pot available for you than a common shareholder if the company goes bust.</p>
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		<title>By: Basil2</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Sep 2009 22:48:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>His advice makes sense to people that don&#039;t want to take risk in the stock market with their savings. Even though returns are much smaller than stocks, there is no risk involved. There is no guarantee that stocks will outperform bonds in the future as past is not an indicator of future performance. Because this is a matter of the level of risk tolerance I think there is no point in arguing and trying to point out how over long run stocks outperformed the bonds. It sounds like ideological argumentation. In the end it is a matter of the level of risk tolerance not empirical evidence. Economy is not physics and not everybody should accept to risk life safings with a market collapse we witnessed last fall.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>His advice makes sense to people that don&#8217;t want to take risk in the stock market with their savings. Even though returns are much smaller than stocks, there is no risk involved. There is no guarantee that stocks will outperform bonds in the future as past is not an indicator of future performance. Because this is a matter of the level of risk tolerance I think there is no point in arguing and trying to point out how over long run stocks outperformed the bonds. It sounds like ideological argumentation. In the end it is a matter of the level of risk tolerance not empirical evidence. Economy is not physics and not everybody should accept to risk life safings with a market collapse we witnessed last fall.</p>
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		<title>By: TEMPLE</title>
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		<dc:creator>TEMPLE</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Sep 2009 19:07:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A big point that doesn&#039;t seem to be addressed in David Trahair&#039;s thesis is tax efficiency.  With that in mind, GIC real returns are going to be dramatically lower than the returns from stocks, which are very tax efficient.  Index ETFs are even more tax efficient, I think.

TEMPLE</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A big point that doesn&#8217;t seem to be addressed in David Trahair&#8217;s thesis is tax efficiency.  With that in mind, GIC real returns are going to be dramatically lower than the returns from stocks, which are very tax efficient.  Index ETFs are even more tax efficient, I think.</p>
<p>TEMPLE</p>
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		<title>By: Canadian Capitalist</title>
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		<dc:creator>Canadian Capitalist</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Sep 2009 17:01:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Michael: I&#039;m not aware of any studies of GIC investors. But I wouldn&#039;t be surprised if the results are consistent. Like you note, GIC investors probably are tempted to chase other asset classes. It is hard to resist piling in when you hear about a friend making a killing investing in the latest high-flier.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Michael: I&#8217;m not aware of any studies of GIC investors. But I wouldn&#8217;t be surprised if the results are consistent. Like you note, GIC investors probably are tempted to chase other asset classes. It is hard to resist piling in when you hear about a friend making a killing investing in the latest high-flier.</p>
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