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		<title>By: The Financial Blogger &#124; Financial Ramblings - $100 Gift Certificate Contest</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Jan 2009 11:31:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Joe Nobody</title>
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		<dc:creator>Joe Nobody</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Jan 2009 03:53:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>To EconStudent and the others.

Thanks for the kind comments. Interesting info you posted too.

The books/Publications I found interesting  :

I have a subscription to Money sense Magazine, it&#039;s easy to read and they cover a wide variety of topics.

The warren buffet way
The lies about money
How to pay less and keep more for yourself. Rob Carrick- who seems to get a lot of bad comments on the internet. But I liked his book very much. One of my favorites. Agrees about the poor returns of many mutual funds and the crazy fees. Backs it up with numbers. I like his approach.
Lazy persons guide to investing (book about many different strategy&#039;s) - first book i read about couch potato portfolio&#039;s.
The Lazy investor
Live for today plan for tomorrow.  Written by a local person not far from where i live. Approaches investing combined with life decisions. Very different read.
Start late finish rich
100 best stocks you can buy in 2009
Plus a lot of sit down time at Chapters, just going through anything interesting. I read most of a recent book i think it was called &quot;Enough&quot; by the founder of Vanguard Funds there. A very interesting read.

The Investopedia.com website with a cool stock simulator is quite informative as well.

I would like to find a free &amp; simple Mutual/Index fund Simulator website if there is one out there I would appreciate someone sending me a link. 

One other source depending on your view of use of the internet is like music and movies if you look around you can download a multitude of e-books and magazines from the internet from bit torrent sites.   I know I&#039;m a pirate I&#039;m bad! Sorry! You will be very surprised to see what is there particularly at Demonoid.

I read just about anything related to business, including the newspaper business section every day i can and Google Finance news and tools.

Oh yes I just purchased a copy of the investors &quot;bible&quot; - The intelligent investor. That&#039;s my next read. the new edition i got has comments on each chapter to help explain them.

This is a really nice site too - I found it by accident.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To EconStudent and the others.</p>
<p>Thanks for the kind comments. Interesting info you posted too.</p>
<p>The books/Publications I found interesting  :</p>
<p>I have a subscription to Money sense Magazine, it&#8217;s easy to read and they cover a wide variety of topics.</p>
<p>The warren buffet way<br />
The lies about money<br />
How to pay less and keep more for yourself. Rob Carrick- who seems to get a lot of bad comments on the internet. But I liked his book very much. One of my favorites. Agrees about the poor returns of many mutual funds and the crazy fees. Backs it up with numbers. I like his approach.<br />
Lazy persons guide to investing (book about many different strategy&#8217;s) &#8211; first book i read about couch potato portfolio&#8217;s.<br />
The Lazy investor<br />
Live for today plan for tomorrow.  Written by a local person not far from where i live. Approaches investing combined with life decisions. Very different read.<br />
Start late finish rich<br />
100 best stocks you can buy in 2009<br />
Plus a lot of sit down time at Chapters, just going through anything interesting. I read most of a recent book i think it was called &#8220;Enough&#8221; by the founder of Vanguard Funds there. A very interesting read.</p>
<p>The Investopedia.com website with a cool stock simulator is quite informative as well.</p>
<p>I would like to find a free &amp; simple Mutual/Index fund Simulator website if there is one out there I would appreciate someone sending me a link. </p>
<p>One other source depending on your view of use of the internet is like music and movies if you look around you can download a multitude of e-books and magazines from the internet from bit torrent sites.   I know I&#8217;m a pirate I&#8217;m bad! Sorry! You will be very surprised to see what is there particularly at Demonoid.</p>
<p>I read just about anything related to business, including the newspaper business section every day i can and Google Finance news and tools.</p>
<p>Oh yes I just purchased a copy of the investors &#8220;bible&#8221; &#8211; The intelligent investor. That&#8217;s my next read. the new edition i got has comments on each chapter to help explain them.</p>
<p>This is a really nice site too &#8211; I found it by accident.</p>
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		<title>By: EconStudent</title>
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		<dc:creator>EconStudent</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Jan 2009 01:40:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Joe: Nice job. You are somebody. Very nice post. By the way which books did you read?

Here is the trailing commission schedule of a bank&#039; mutual fund line up:

index funds: .25% (MER: 1%)
fixed income funds: .50% (MER: 1 to 1.25%)
balanced funds: .75% (MER: 1.5%)
equity funds: 1.25% (MER: 2.5%)

According to RedFlagDeal forum post, financial planner (mutual fund sales person) gets 65% to 85% of the trailing commission. Equity funds&#039; trailing commission is 5 times higher than index funds. 

According to my understanding, corporate funds have lower MERs, because they do not pay trailing commission.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Joe: Nice job. You are somebody. Very nice post. By the way which books did you read?</p>
<p>Here is the trailing commission schedule of a bank&#8217; mutual fund line up:</p>
<p>index funds: .25% (MER: 1%)<br />
fixed income funds: .50% (MER: 1 to 1.25%)<br />
balanced funds: .75% (MER: 1.5%)<br />
equity funds: 1.25% (MER: 2.5%)</p>
<p>According to RedFlagDeal forum post, financial planner (mutual fund sales person) gets 65% to 85% of the trailing commission. Equity funds&#8217; trailing commission is 5 times higher than index funds. </p>
<p>According to my understanding, corporate funds have lower MERs, because they do not pay trailing commission.</p>
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		<title>By: Dividend Growth Investor</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dividend Growth Investor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Jan 2009 16:53:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Unfortunately it is true that most fund advisers only care about generating as much commissions and fees for their companies as possible. I did have some faith in the hedge fund community, but the more I hear about their 2/20 structure the more I am convicing myself that doing it all on your own will produce the best results in the long run.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Unfortunately it is true that most fund advisers only care about generating as much commissions and fees for their companies as possible. I did have some faith in the hedge fund community, but the more I hear about their 2/20 structure the more I am convicing myself that doing it all on your own will produce the best results in the long run.</p>
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		<title>By: Dave</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dave</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Jan 2009 09:28:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There&#039;s nothing wrong with trying to time the market necessarily. If there were no fees, assuming you were diversified and tried to &quot;time the market&quot; many times, things would average out and you&#039;d get the market return. It&#039;s the fees that kill you.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There&#8217;s nothing wrong with trying to time the market necessarily. If there were no fees, assuming you were diversified and tried to &#8220;time the market&#8221; many times, things would average out and you&#8217;d get the market return. It&#8217;s the fees that kill you.</p>
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		<title>By: Joe Nobody</title>
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		<dc:creator>Joe Nobody</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Jan 2009 05:37:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am a novice investor in knowledge. Over the last year i have read many books and have done a lot of on-line and other research into market timing - vs  the &quot;buy/hold/dollar cost avg/re balance&quot; Strategy. 

I feel you need to Time it a little even if you lose a little on the way up and down. With my little knowledge I rebalanced my portfolio about 16 months ago. I also spread it out into as many different products offered as i could. I kept hearing 2008 was going to be bad for equities from so many sources that I felt I had to do something.  I have a decent little portfolio with work where i can shuffle funds from one class/type to the other for no cost when i want.  So that makes it easy for me.

I have only lost 14% of my portfolio&#039;s value over that period. I consider that pretty fortunate, other employees in the same group plan have lost up to 60% in aggressive portfolios.

There are 4-5 funds available to me in our group plan that have lost 50% of their value, I&#039;m going to buy some of those up at this new low value (transfer over) as soon as  see some signs we are climbing back out of this.  Even if i miss out on 10% of gain to be sure things are going forward I  intend to ride those back up to to their previous levels.  I won&#039;t be greedy and will re balance once the funds get back to the level they were at or there are signs of possible other moves to protect or to make a better return. 

To me a lot of these mutual funds are simply dogs. They just give you enough to beat interest bearing investments. The Mer&#039;s on a lot of them are ridiculous. The only people truly making money are the fund managers and brokerage companies.  They prey on the lack of investor knowledge and do very little for the individual. I mean why would they? If you work for London life for example who are you really trying to make money for? Yourself and your bosses first of course.

Even now the strategy is still the same, keep buying, stick with the plan because the unit values are low, &quot;sorry sir yes i know, your million dollars is now $500,000&quot;, no big deal, stick with the plan. 

Please someone tell me how this strategy really works? Why are so many financial planners unwilling to just tweak peoples plans? I&#039;m not saying trade it like a stock but is it so bad to re balance to be a little defensive for a time and aggressive  when times are better?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am a novice investor in knowledge. Over the last year i have read many books and have done a lot of on-line and other research into market timing &#8211; vs  the &#8220;buy/hold/dollar cost avg/re balance&#8221; Strategy. </p>
<p>I feel you need to Time it a little even if you lose a little on the way up and down. With my little knowledge I rebalanced my portfolio about 16 months ago. I also spread it out into as many different products offered as i could. I kept hearing 2008 was going to be bad for equities from so many sources that I felt I had to do something.  I have a decent little portfolio with work where i can shuffle funds from one class/type to the other for no cost when i want.  So that makes it easy for me.</p>
<p>I have only lost 14% of my portfolio&#8217;s value over that period. I consider that pretty fortunate, other employees in the same group plan have lost up to 60% in aggressive portfolios.</p>
<p>There are 4-5 funds available to me in our group plan that have lost 50% of their value, I&#8217;m going to buy some of those up at this new low value (transfer over) as soon as  see some signs we are climbing back out of this.  Even if i miss out on 10% of gain to be sure things are going forward I  intend to ride those back up to to their previous levels.  I won&#8217;t be greedy and will re balance once the funds get back to the level they were at or there are signs of possible other moves to protect or to make a better return. </p>
<p>To me a lot of these mutual funds are simply dogs. They just give you enough to beat interest bearing investments. The Mer&#8217;s on a lot of them are ridiculous. The only people truly making money are the fund managers and brokerage companies.  They prey on the lack of investor knowledge and do very little for the individual. I mean why would they? If you work for London life for example who are you really trying to make money for? Yourself and your bosses first of course.</p>
<p>Even now the strategy is still the same, keep buying, stick with the plan because the unit values are low, &#8220;sorry sir yes i know, your million dollars is now $500,000&#8243;, no big deal, stick with the plan. </p>
<p>Please someone tell me how this strategy really works? Why are so many financial planners unwilling to just tweak peoples plans? I&#8217;m not saying trade it like a stock but is it so bad to re balance to be a little defensive for a time and aggressive  when times are better?</p>
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		<title>By: Sampson</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sampson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Jan 2009 18:13:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m a stalwart buy-and-holder, but I&#039;ve found that there are many instances where it seems timing is critical (in this particular market).

Let me use a conundrum I&#039;m currently facing re: TFSA&#039;s.  I&#039;m going to transfer assets in-kind, so no real gains/losses.  However if I transfer assets on day 1, I might get 100 units in.  If I transfer on day 2, I might get 90 or 110 units in depending on the particular swing in the market that day.

So... in essence, I am trying to time the market, but I&#039;ll maintain the holding.  Now I just wish I knew something about timing the market... ;)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m a stalwart buy-and-holder, but I&#8217;ve found that there are many instances where it seems timing is critical (in this particular market).</p>
<p>Let me use a conundrum I&#8217;m currently facing re: TFSA&#8217;s.  I&#8217;m going to transfer assets in-kind, so no real gains/losses.  However if I transfer assets on day 1, I might get 100 units in.  If I transfer on day 2, I might get 90 or 110 units in depending on the particular swing in the market that day.</p>
<p>So&#8230; in essence, I am trying to time the market, but I&#8217;ll maintain the holding.  Now I just wish I knew something about timing the market&#8230; <img src='http://www.canadiancapitalist.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Canadian Capitalist</title>
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		<dc:creator>Canadian Capitalist</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Jan 2009 16:19:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Fred: I wasn&#039;t trying to bait you at all. I&#039;ve been reading a lot of commentary by buy-and-holders questioning the wisdom of their strategy and tempted by the alternatives such as market timing. These investors who think that the grass is greener on the other side may want to keep in mind that market timing doesn&#039;t always work as shown in this example.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Fred: I wasn&#8217;t trying to bait you at all. I&#8217;ve been reading a lot of commentary by buy-and-holders questioning the wisdom of their strategy and tempted by the alternatives such as market timing. These investors who think that the grass is greener on the other side may want to keep in mind that market timing doesn&#8217;t always work as shown in this example.</p>
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		<title>By: Fred</title>
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		<dc:creator>Fred</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Jan 2009 16:00:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>CC:

I wonder if the last sentence in your post was bait for me!

The mistakes made by these folks does not provide proof-positive that market timing doesn&#039;t work.  Their efforts in this particular case did not work.  That&#039;s it.

Market timing isn&#039;t for everyone.  Even when you have a timer that works well, the psychological side of timing is challenging.

My US timer told me to get out the market on June 11 and my Canadian timer told me to get of the market on June 12.  We all know what has happened since!

I should add that it is easier take full advantage of market timing when you are managing a personal portfolio as compared to a mutual fund.

Fred</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>CC:</p>
<p>I wonder if the last sentence in your post was bait for me!</p>
<p>The mistakes made by these folks does not provide proof-positive that market timing doesn&#8217;t work.  Their efforts in this particular case did not work.  That&#8217;s it.</p>
<p>Market timing isn&#8217;t for everyone.  Even when you have a timer that works well, the psychological side of timing is challenging.</p>
<p>My US timer told me to get out the market on June 11 and my Canadian timer told me to get of the market on June 12.  We all know what has happened since!</p>
<p>I should add that it is easier take full advantage of market timing when you are managing a personal portfolio as compared to a mutual fund.</p>
<p>Fred</p>
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